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Ryan

Libertarians and Tebaggers repeat the same line over and over. "Mobre businesses= better quality and lower prices" or "more competition equals better quality and lower prices".

We can see what this theory has done for the computer software industry, where Microsoft and Apple only compete on how high they can raise prices and how to lower the bar on customer service and product quality and get away with it. We can also see the same thing going on in health care.

There's no competition in health care. Even if there was, I can't go out on a "market" and buy a replacement heart or a surgical procedure for the lowest bid. :P

People who think like this will tell you that having 20 postal services would raise quality and lower prices. the whole competition myth is perpetuated by businesses everywhere that want to lower quality and raise prices as part of a racketeering scam.

Health insurance cartel should be sued under the RICO Act for sending out $100,000 hospital bills which even include a $500 box of facial tissues. (Holy shit!)

The healthcare bill as it is, as bad as it is, is better than what we have now.

Still, health insurance should be banned, everyone should be covered, and if we'd stop bombing brown people for once, there's be enough to cover everyone, no human being excluded, with money left over.

Peter Gibbons

Did you get dropped on your head as a kid? Why such anger? Is there anything good in this world and what would you do to change all that is evil?

Ryan

There's little that's good in business.

It's odd that Libertarians and Teabaggers say they want to privatize things, yet don't want to create health care exchanges where companies compete with Medicaid and Medicare. Yes, I know there's going to be some government subsidies for the poor, but it's really not worse than paying "FICA MED" tax all your life and then also paying $100 a month in premiums when you get to that age where you're on Medicare.

Since the language in the bill would make it to where poor people (including most Social Security recipients)would pay no more than 6% of their income in medical premiums, and the average Social Security recipient gets about $1,200, they'll theoretically be paying about $72 a month their whole working life (obviously adjust this for inflation).

So most working people and Social Security recipients could take this plan and not only be "ahead" about $28 a month, but we could also "eliminate" the FICA MED deductions from your paycheck.

The other thing of course is that these companies can't milk you for premiums every month and then drop you when you get sick, and there'a a way for just about everyone to get in.

The problem here is that privatization doesn't really work. it's not efficient. The for-profit health care cartel takes about 20% of every dollar they take in and spend it on CEO bonus packages, the board is off snorting cocaine off of toasters, maybe even a prostitute or twenty.

Hell, who even knows where all these private companies spend that 20%, but it isn't on you, pal!

Medicare on the other hand doesn't hide its costs, nobody is dipping into the money you've paid in for health care and doing blow off a toaster, and Medicare pays 99 cents of every dollar going in on care and 1% on administration.

It's actually a better idea to open up Medicare for everyone than it is to put everyone under wasteful corporate insurance plans that use the money coming in on hookers and bonuses. The problem with the plan we have right now is not only that there are Republicans in office that have mutilated and ripped out most of the good that was in the bill, but that lobbyists all around (lobbying with your premium dollars no less) got the Republicans and Democrats to write them a bill that looked like the cartel could have written it themselves.

The only reasons I could hold my nose and say I support this bill, is because it does end a lot of the worst insurance company abuses (dropping cancer patients who can't get chemo or surgery and die), and it will accept anyone.

Think of it as what Medicare would have looked like if Bush had privatized it like he wanted to privatize Social Security. Oh, well Ryan, when the Spawn of Satan wanted to privatize Social Security and let Wall Street figure out how to steal people's retirements in the crash of 2008, that's different!

Bush also wanted to privatize retirement accounts so that HOSPITALS, insurance cartels, and anyone else could sue you and MAKE SURE to take everything. Every last penny!

Oh, but it's different when Spawn of Satan Bush, sent here to destroy mankind, tried it. ;)

You are hypocrites. How can you hate Obams? He's copied all the worst, most Constitution violating items out of Damien's playbook.

Hey, here's a funny story, totally off topic, but still on point. From 2001-2007, the Constitution Nullification Act (PATRIOT Act) signed by President Bush, took away our Fourth Amendment rights along with the rest of them.

You know, the pesky one that makes law enforcement get a little thing called a "warrant" before kicking down your door and seizing evidence? Right. So The FBI during this time was using fake TERROR~1 ;) emergencies to seize people's property, their library records, illegally tap their phone, make off with their computers. This is until the Federal court system and those "pesky liberal activist judges" came in and struck down the "National Security Letter" provision of the Constitution Nullification Act and restored the Fourth Amendment.

You hypocrites want to say health care violates the Constitution, why didn't you speak up, AT ALL, when Bush was signing the Constitution Nullification Act. You are liars, you are hypocrites, you are the scum of the Earth, and no I find nothing good about you.

"Is there anything good in this world?"

Yeah, when the "conservatives" do finally manage to start World War III, they'll die along with us. Of course they think Jesus is coming back, so they want to die. Not much different than Muslim TERROR~1 is it? Hehe!

"and what would you do to change all that is evil?"

Evil meaning greed and corruption? Not much to do to change that. People have struck at branches and solved the problem temporarily (Andrew Jackson destroyed the Bank of the United States (precursor to the Fed).

That came back.

Religion? One branch is usually more dominant, but it never goes away.

Oddly, the one thing I do agree with the Religion cartel on is that the battle between good and evil is never ending. I also believe they are on the "evil" side. A few Catholic priests hiding their child molestation scandals and escaping to the Vatican to avoid prosecution doesn't make th list when you consider all the Crimes Against Humanity they and their ilk have brought down on the world.

Czar RYan

Ryan speaks a lot of cartels, must be where he buys his smokable lunch from.

Hint: Rambling on and on, for paragraph after paragraph, does not make you point valid.

Anyone can blather about this and rant about that.

Simply, barking does nto make you a dog.

Whining does not make you a vintage Chardanay (sic).

Quacking does not make you a duck.

Bush this, Bush that....I don't see anyone writing about the perceived virtues of Bush. Why do you bring him up?

I, for the record, never thought he was any thiong more than an average President, at best.

Why do you always lump everyone who disagrees with you into one big pile of "Teabaggers"?

Maybe, the people who do nto share your thoughts, simply, think you are an idiot.

Not everyone who opposes your views is "fat and white" (your words) tea party member.

Let me try your philosophy on you.

You are nothign mroe than bag of wind liberal whow ants to tax and spend. You would rather kill babies and the elderly, than reform immigration. You believe everyone who opposes illegal immigrations is a racist. You see no problem with women having 6 kids by 6 different fathers, by the age of 25, living off the taxpayer's money. You believe we should pull out of every military base in the world, except in our own country, and leave the rest of the world to go to hell in a handbasket. You believe we shoudl wait until someone blows up a building befor einvestigating them. You bleieve we should say pretty please and thank you when a known terrorist tells us to shove it.

Now, do I have any way of knowing you truly think that way? no. I am making a point. THis rant and ramble is exactly what you do to everyone else on this page, who does not agree with you.

You are here for not other reason than to spout off hate filled diatrabes about anything and everything non liberally based.

You are the walking definition of hypocritical waste of flesh and air.

Ryan

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/03/20/1826369/tea-party-protesters-hurl-racial.html

Hint: All that the teabaggers can do is shout "communist", "nazi", and, "nigger", they can't even formulate an opinion other than that they're a bunch of angry old white men. The "Angry White Man" movement is a better name for you.

Whatever...

Ryan,

It is simple (very simple) economics that more competition does lower prices.

If you are in a business and are making an Economic Profit (look up the term), you will invite competition at some point. With competition, your Economic Profit will decrease and become closer to the point of a Normal Profit (look it up). Too much competition and you have to do something, because your Normal Profit will turn into a loss. What do you do? You become more Efficient, or you utilize your...

You know what? You wouldn't read this if I kept going, or you wouldn't understand it...

Stupid people pzzz me off.. I can't believe I started to waste my time like this...

Ryan

Well, here's my opinion, and I think this much sums up about 80% or more out there.

1. Why can't Teabaggers come up with an intelligible platform? Why must they insist on calling their opponents "Communist Nazi Nigger Faggots" who are in on a secret plot to kill Grandma? Do you people realize how stupid that looks?

2. Why is your goal (apparently) to have people say "Oh dammit, they're having another Klan rally!" when you encircle the courthouse and burn effigies of the President and wave signs calling people "Communists"?

3. Why do Teabaggers feel that Thomas Jefferson (a self-proclaimed non-theist) was too liberal to teach children about? Why does your group want to rewrite history books to make him an uber-conservative bible thumper?

Face it, you guys are the second rise of the Indiana Klan, the only thing you aren't doing (yet) is politically motivated assassinations and terroristic attacks.

You almost make me embarrassed to be an American.

Tree Killer

Ryan, you're the only one using derogatory terms on this board. You should look at your previous posts. You have way more issues and hangups than any Klansman.

I would love to help you understand the real world by explaining the history of the tea party, simple economics, basic business, the use of overstatement to make a point, the disagreement with Obama views, simple spelling, how to use a dictionary, etc... But as you can see there are far to many issues here.

So I'll offer you one bit of advice. Shut off the computer, turn off CNN and talk to people in the Tea party. Go with an open mind, you might learn that they are at least principled and have well thought out convictions. You may still disagree, but at least you won't look like a nut.

Dr. Pepper

"Tree Killer" - Thank you.
Poor Ryan can't seem to get his flight of rambling ideas to make any point. That is unfortunate for him.

open mind

Ryan makes perfect sense to me. I think Dr. Pepper is the epitomy of what Ryan is trying to point out. Dr. Pepper fails to make any point but succeeds in trying to diminish his opponent by silly, intimidating words. This tactic does work with the teabaggers and that says it all.

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